Hello all, At the Jazoon 2009 conference, I attended a talk by Hans Dockter on Gradle, a build framework based on Groovy. The ability to mix language features within the build file itself was quite convincing so as to switch on a dim light inside my head. I think it would be worthwhile to explore the creation of a DSL for configuring logback. Anyone interested to work on this? I have already asked Jason Dillon and he has not answered yet. Cheers, -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch
You're probably aware that Grails has a Groovy DSL for configuring Log4J - it was a bit ropey to start with, but I'm assured its much improved in the latest version of Grails. Might be an interesting place to start, as there's not that much difference between Log4J and Logback from a configuration point of view. Rob On 25 Jun 2009, at 13:46, Ceki Gulcu wrote:
Hello all,
At the Jazoon 2009 conference, I attended a talk by Hans Dockter on Gradle, a build framework based on Groovy. The ability to mix language features within the build file itself was quite convincing so as to switch on a dim light inside my head.
I think it would be worthwhile to explore the creation of a DSL for configuring logback. Anyone interested to work on this? I have already asked Jason Dillon and he has not answered yet.
Cheers,
-- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch _______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
Do you know off hand where the dsl log4j stuff lives in the grails codebase? --jason On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Robert Elliot wrote:
You're probably aware that Grails has a Groovy DSL for configuring Log4J - it was a bit ropey to start with, but I'm assured its much improved in the latest version of Grails. Might be an interesting place to start, as there's not that much difference between Log4J and Logback from a configuration point of view.
Rob
On 25 Jun 2009, at 13:46, Ceki Gulcu wrote:
Hello all,
At the Jazoon 2009 conference, I attended a talk by Hans Dockter on Gradle, a build framework based on Groovy. The ability to mix language features within the build file itself was quite convincing so as to switch on a dim light inside my head.
I think it would be worthwhile to explore the creation of a DSL for configuring logback. Anyone interested to work on this? I have already asked Jason Dillon and he has not answered yet.
Cheers,
-- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch _______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
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Found a url to some docs for the dsl here: http://grails.org/Log4j+XML+Plugin --jason On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Robert Elliot wrote:
You're probably aware that Grails has a Groovy DSL for configuring Log4J - it was a bit ropey to start with, but I'm assured its much improved in the latest version of Grails. Might be an interesting place to start, as there's not that much difference between Log4J and Logback from a configuration point of view.
Rob
On 25 Jun 2009, at 13:46, Ceki Gulcu wrote:
Hello all,
At the Jazoon 2009 conference, I attended a talk by Hans Dockter on Gradle, a build framework based on Groovy. The ability to mix language features within the build file itself was quite convincing so as to switch on a dim light inside my head.
I think it would be worthwhile to explore the creation of a DSL for configuring logback. Anyone interested to work on this? I have already asked Jason Dillon and he has not answered yet.
Cheers,
-- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch _______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
_______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
This might also be useful: http://grails.org/doc/1.1.x/guide/3.%20Configuration.html#3.1.2%20Logging Not sure where the code lives in Grails... it looks like they've abandoned the pre 1.1 DSL which captured the notion of the logger hierarchy being a tree, which seems a bit of a shame, I liked that concept. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Dillon" <jason@planet57.com> To: "logback developers list" <logback-dev@qos.ch> Sent: Friday, 26 June, 2009 06:19:17 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [logback-dev] DSL for configuring logback Found a url to some docs for the dsl here: http://grails.org/Log4j+XML+Plugin --jason On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Robert Elliot wrote:
You're probably aware that Grails has a Groovy DSL for configuring Log4J - it was a bit ropey to start with, but I'm assured its much improved in the latest version of Grails. Might be an interesting place to start, as there's not that much difference between Log4J and Logback from a configuration point of view.
Rob
On 25 Jun 2009, at 13:46, Ceki Gulcu wrote:
Hello all,
At the Jazoon 2009 conference, I attended a talk by Hans Dockter on Gradle, a build framework based on Groovy. The ability to mix language features within the build file itself was quite convincing so as to switch on a dim light inside my head.
I think it would be worthwhile to explore the creation of a DSL for configuring logback. Anyone interested to work on this? I have already asked Jason Dillon and he has not answered yet.
Cheers,
-- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch _______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
_______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
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This DSL project for logback could be extremely cool. Anyone interested to volunteer for this work? Robert Elliot wrote:
This might also be useful: http://grails.org/doc/1.1.x/guide/3.%20Configuration.html#3.1.2%20Logging
Not sure where the code lives in Grails... it looks like they've abandoned the pre 1.1 DSL which captured the notion of the logger hierarchy being a tree, which seems a bit of a shame, I liked that concept.
Rob
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Dillon" <jason@planet57.com> To: "logback developers list" <logback-dev@qos.ch> Sent: Friday, 26 June, 2009 06:19:17 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [logback-dev] DSL for configuring logback
Found a url to some docs for the dsl here:
http://grails.org/Log4j+XML+Plugin
--jason
On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Robert Elliot wrote:
You're probably aware that Grails has a Groovy DSL for configuring Log4J - it was a bit ropey to start with, but I'm assured its much improved in the latest version of Grails. Might be an interesting place to start, as there's not that much difference between Log4J and Logback from a configuration point of view.
Rob
On 25 Jun 2009, at 13:46, Ceki Gulcu wrote:
Hello all,
At the Jazoon 2009 conference, I attended a talk by Hans Dockter on Gradle, a build framework based on Groovy. The ability to mix language features within the build file itself was quite convincing so as to switch on a dim light inside my head.
I think it would be worthwhile to explore the creation of a DSL for configuring logback. Anyone interested to work on this? I have already asked Jason Dillon and he has not answered yet.
Cheers,
-- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch _______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
_______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev _______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
-- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch
I may be interested, though I want to see what the Grails folks have crafted up first na. --jason On Jun 27, 2009, at 1:44 AM, Ceki Gulcu wrote:
This DSL project for logback could be extremely cool. Anyone interested to volunteer for this work?
Robert Elliot wrote:
This might also be useful: http://grails.org/doc/1.1.x/guide/3.%20Configuration.html#3.1.2%20Logging Not sure where the code lives in Grails... it looks like they've abandoned the pre 1.1 DSL which captured the notion of the logger hierarchy being a tree, which seems a bit of a shame, I liked that concept. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Dillon" <jason@planet57.com> To: "logback developers list" <logback-dev@qos.ch> Sent: Friday, 26 June, 2009 06:19:17 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [logback-dev] DSL for configuring logback Found a url to some docs for the dsl here: http://grails.org/Log4j+XML+Plugin --jason On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Robert Elliot wrote:
You're probably aware that Grails has a Groovy DSL for configuring Log4J - it was a bit ropey to start with, but I'm assured its much improved in the latest version of Grails. Might be an interesting place to start, as there's not that much difference between Log4J and Logback from a configuration point of view.
Rob
On 25 Jun 2009, at 13:46, Ceki Gulcu wrote:
Hello all,
At the Jazoon 2009 conference, I attended a talk by Hans Dockter on Gradle, a build framework based on Groovy. The ability to mix language features within the build file itself was quite convincing so as to switch on a dim light inside my head.
I think it would be worthwhile to explore the creation of a DSL for configuring logback. Anyone interested to work on this? I have already asked Jason Dillon and he has not answered yet.
Cheers,
-- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch _______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev _______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
-- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch _______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
I would be, but I've got three logback projects on the go and unfinished already! Need to clear my backlog a bit. Robert On 26 Jun 2009, at 19:44, Ceki Gulcu wrote:
This DSL project for logback could be extremely cool. Anyone interested to volunteer for this work?
Robert Elliot wrote:
This might also be useful: http://grails.org/doc/1.1.x/guide/3.%20Configuration.html#3.1.2%20Logging Not sure where the code lives in Grails... it looks like they've abandoned the pre 1.1 DSL which captured the notion of the logger hierarchy being a tree, which seems a bit of a shame, I liked that concept. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Dillon" <jason@planet57.com> To: "logback developers list" <logback-dev@qos.ch> Sent: Friday, 26 June, 2009 06:19:17 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: [logback-dev] DSL for configuring logback Found a url to some docs for the dsl here: http://grails.org/Log4j+XML+Plugin --jason On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Robert Elliot wrote:
You're probably aware that Grails has a Groovy DSL for configuring Log4J - it was a bit ropey to start with, but I'm assured its much improved in the latest version of Grails. Might be an interesting place to start, as there's not that much difference between Log4J and Logback from a configuration point of view.
Rob
On 25 Jun 2009, at 13:46, Ceki Gulcu wrote:
Hello all,
At the Jazoon 2009 conference, I attended a talk by Hans Dockter on Gradle, a build framework based on Groovy. The ability to mix language features within the build file itself was quite convincing so as to switch on a dim light inside my head.
I think it would be worthwhile to explore the creation of a DSL for configuring logback. Anyone interested to work on this? I have already asked Jason Dillon and he has not answered yet.
Cheers,
-- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch _______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev _______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
-- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch _______________________________________________ logback-dev mailing list logback-dev@qos.ch http://qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-dev
Robert Elliot wrote:
You're probably aware that Grails has a Groovy DSL for configuring Log4J - it was a bit ropey to start with, but I'm assured its much improved in the latest version of Grails. Might be an interesting place to start, as there's not that much difference between Log4J and Logback from a configuration point of view.
I did not know that. Thank you Robert. -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Hello all,
At the Jazoon 2009 conference, I attended a talk by Hans Dockter on Gradle, a build framework based on Groovy. The ability to mix language features within the build file itself was quite convincing so as to switch on a dim light inside my head.
I think it would be worthwhile to explore the creation of a DSL for configuring logback. Anyone interested to work on this? I have already asked Jason Dillon and he has not answered yet. The Jetty project has a quite powerful XML configuration file format, allowing very complex configurations - including conditionals etc. - as XML files.
If the Jetty license is compatible with Logback, this might be a very low hanging fruit. -- Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen "...plus... Tubular Bells!"
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
Ceki Gulcu skrev:
Hello all,
At the Jazoon 2009 conference, I attended a talk by Hans Dockter on Gradle, a build framework based on Groovy. The ability to mix language features within the build file itself was quite convincing so as to switch on a dim light inside my head.
I think it would be worthwhile to explore the creation of a DSL for configuring logback. Anyone interested to work on this? I have already asked Jason Dillon and he has not answered yet. The Jetty project has a quite powerful XML configuration file format, allowing very complex configurations - including conditionals etc. - as XML files.
If the Jetty license is compatible with Logback, this might be a very low hanging fruit.
I take pride in Joran which I think is amazingly powerful. What SiftingAppender does is rather unique and can happen because of Joran can do partial configuration replay. So, seeking more power is not a motivation here. Joran is still based on XML and at the end of the day, XML does *not* make for a very nice configuration language. I think we could do better. -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch
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