Hi All, I am planning major improvements to Joran in version 1.1.0 (the next release of logback). In logback.xml files you will be able to write: <fileAppender name="FILE"> <file>testFile.log</file> <append>true</append> <encoder> <pattern>[%thread] %-5level %logger{35} - %msg%n</pattern> </encoder> </fileAppender > instead of the current more clunky <appender name="FILE" class="ch.qos.logback.core.FileAppender"> <file>testFile.log</file> <append>true</append> <encoder> <pattern>[%thread] %-5level %logger{35} - %msg%n</pattern> </encoder> </appender> The previous format will continue to work without change. The same idea would extend to other components, not just appenders. As a result, internal parts of Joran are expected to change. -- Ceki 65% of statistics are made up on the spot