I may be right?  Just look at the Logback home page and see a few projects using it, e.g. SpringSource’s dm Server.

You place too much value in a marketing thing – a release number!

You are also confusing authors of work – I am a fan and user of SLF4J and Logback.  All credit goes to Ceki and associates.

For stability concerns, you should review the Logback history with its genesis from Log4j.  You do know Ceki, the Logback founder, is also the founder of Log4j?

‘nuff said…

From: logback-user-bounces@qos.ch [mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch] On Behalf Of Ari Meyer
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:26 PM
To: logback users list
Subject: Re: [logback-user] 1.0 release date?

Hi Jeff,

You may be right about that (though I haven't seen it pulled down as a dependency for my Maven builds, yet...), but large organizations often don't see things the way you and I do.  They won't ditch an acceptable, stable log4j for what *appears* to be a beta.  After over 4 years of active development, though, it seems reasonable to expect multiple full releases of something as relatively small in scope as a logging framework.  The fact that we don't see a 1.0 yet perhaps indicates over-perfectionism.  This often happens with other OSS projects (JDOM being a notable case of this, as I remember).  For our sake, please just get to a reasonably stable build and label it "1.0".  We'll expect bug fixes and minor API changes, of course, as that's natural, and new features can be released incrementally.

Are there some must-have features that have yet to be implemented?  It would be nice if the FAQ were updated for this, along with a high-level road map.

Thanks for all for the hard work!
Ari

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Jeff Jensen <jjensen@apache.org> wrote:

Just because the release number begins with a value < 1 doesn't mean it is
in beta.  Lots and lots of products around the world use SLF4J and Logback
in production operations, and I bet including some of the FOS frameworks you
are using!

-----Original Message-----
From: logback-user-bounces@qos.ch [mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch] On
Behalf Of Ari Meyer
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:09 AM
To: logback-user@qos.ch
Subject: [logback-user] 1.0 release date?

Hi,

We'd like to switch from log4j to logback, but can't use beta releases.
logback has been in development for over 4 years now -- any idea when
we'll see a 1.0 release?

Thanks,
Ari

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