Requesting permission to use source code from slf4j-taglib (and inquiring about its location)
Hello, I'm working on a tag library module for the new Log4j 2 coming out (hopefully) later this year. The slf4j-taglib sub-project is based on the Jakarta Commons Log Taglib, which was built for log4j and is retired. Log4j 2 is a vast improvement over Log4j, and some of its features were inspired by SLF4J. There is undoubtedly some very interrelated code history here, though I don't know the exact details of that on either side. Though the Log4j 2 tag library will obviously have some differences from slf4j-taglib, I can see how there may be some existing code that could be very useful to us. I'd like to go ahead and ask permission from the SLF4J developers to use code from slf4j-taglib for this project. The licenses are compatible (both Apache 2.0), so that won't be an issue. All I need is an email from y'all granting us permission. Also, there's the issue that I can't find the source code for slf4j-taglib. It's not in the JARs or ZIPs available for download from the SLF4J website, it's not on the github repository, and it's not in Maven. Could anyone point me to its location? Thanks in advance, Nick Williams
Hello Nick, Slf4j-aglib was developed by Matt Humphreys <mhumph@gmail.com> based on earlier work done by Joseph Ottinger and James Strachan in Jakarta Commons Log Taglib. Please ask Matt Humphreys to donate slf4j-taglib code to Apache. BTW, the source code for slf4j-taglib is available at: https://github.com/ceki/slf4j-taglib I hope this helps, On 3/25/2013 2:21 PM, Nick Williams wrote:
Though the Log4j 2 tag library will obviously have some differences from slf4j-taglib, I can see how there may be some existing code that could be very useful to us. I'd like to go ahead and ask permission from the SLF4J developers to use code from slf4j-taglib for this project. The licenses are compatible (both Apache 2.0), so that won't be an issue. All I need is an email from y'all granting us permission.
Also, there's the issue that I can't find the source code for slf4j-taglib. It's not in the JARs or ZIPs available for download from the SLF4J website, it's not on the github repository, and it's not in Maven. Could anyone point me to its location?
Thanks in advance,
Nick Williams
-- Ceki
Thanks, on both accounts! I will contact him. I should say that the SLF4J website in no way indicates that this is the case [1]. I would suggest that this page should be changed somehow to indicate that it is not a QOS.ch project. Perhaps there is a website you can point to? Or include the link to https://github.com/ceki/? Nick [1] http://www.slf4j.org/taglib/ On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
Hello Nick,
Slf4j-aglib was developed by Matt Humphreys <mhumph@gmail.com> based on earlier work done by Joseph Ottinger and James Strachan in Jakarta Commons Log Taglib. Please ask Matt Humphreys to donate slf4j-taglib code to Apache.
BTW, the source code for slf4j-taglib is available at:
https://github.com/ceki/slf4j-taglib
I hope this helps,
On 3/25/2013 2:21 PM, Nick Williams wrote:
Though the Log4j 2 tag library will obviously have some differences from slf4j-taglib, I can see how there may be some existing code that could be very useful to us. I'd like to go ahead and ask permission from the SLF4J developers to use code from slf4j-taglib for this project. The licenses are compatible (both Apache 2.0), so that won't be an issue. All I need is an email from y'all granting us permission.
Also, there's the issue that I can't find the source code for slf4j-taglib. It's not in the JARs or ZIPs available for download from the SLF4J website, it's not on the github repository, and it's not in Maven. Could anyone point me to its location?
Thanks in advance,
Nick Williams
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I did not mean to say that slf4j-taglib is not a QOS.ch project. Matt Humphreys donated slf4j-taglib to QOS.ch. However, QOS.ch is not in a position to donate the code to Apache. By analogy, if person P donates code C to Apache, Apache is not in a position to donate C to some other foundation, say Eclipse, without P's consent, at least that is my understanding of how donations work. I'd be glad to reconsider, if you could have someone at licensing@apache.org to confirm that QOS.ch is in a position to (re)donate to Apache. Note that the QOS.ch iCLA is identical to Apache's iCLA word for word except for the obvious s/Apache/QOS.ch/. Anyway, your easiest bet is to have Matt Humphreys directly donate the code. I hope this sheds some light, On 25.03.2013 18:27, Nick Williams wrote:
Thanks, on both accounts! I will contact him.
I should say that the SLF4J website in no way indicates that this is the case [1]. I would suggest that this page should be changed somehow to indicate that it is not a QOS.ch project. Perhaps there is a website you can point to? Or include the link to https://github.com/ceki/?
Nick
[1] http://www.slf4j.org/taglib/
On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
Hello Nick,
Slf4j-aglib was developed by Matt Humphreys <mhumph@gmail.com> based on earlier work done by Joseph Ottinger and James Strachan in Jakarta Commons Log Taglib. Please ask Matt Humphreys to donate slf4j-taglib code to Apache.
BTW, the source code for slf4j-taglib is available at:
https://github.com/ceki/slf4j-taglib
I hope this helps,
On 3/25/2013 2:21 PM, Nick Williams wrote:
Though the Log4j 2 tag library will obviously have some differences from slf4j-taglib, I can see how there may be some existing code that could be very useful to us. I'd like to go ahead and ask permission from the SLF4J developers to use code from slf4j-taglib for this project. The licenses are compatible (both Apache 2.0), so that won't be an issue. All I need is an email from y'all granting us permission.
Also, there's the issue that I can't find the source code for slf4j-taglib. It's not in the JARs or ZIPs available for download from the SLF4J website, it's not on the github repository, and it's not in Maven. Could anyone point me to its location?
Thanks in advance,
Nick Williams
-- Ceki
-- Ceki 65% of statistics are made up on the spot
Oh, okay. That makes more sense. It originally sounded like you were saying it was not a QOS.ch project. I have already emailed Matt and he has already donated the code. Thanks again for the info! Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos On Mar 25, 2013, at 13:45, ceki <ceki@qos.ch> wrote:
I did not mean to say that slf4j-taglib is not a QOS.ch project. Matt Humphreys donated slf4j-taglib to QOS.ch. However, QOS.ch is not in a position to donate the code to Apache. By analogy, if person P donates code C to Apache, Apache is not in a position to donate C to some other foundation, say Eclipse, without P's consent, at least that is my understanding of how donations work. I'd be glad to reconsider, if you could have someone at licensing@apache.org to confirm that QOS.ch is in a position to (re)donate to Apache. Note that the QOS.ch iCLA is identical to Apache's iCLA word for word except for the obvious s/Apache/QOS.ch/.
Anyway, your easiest bet is to have Matt Humphreys directly donate the code.
I hope this sheds some light,
On 25.03.2013 18:27, Nick Williams wrote:
Thanks, on both accounts! I will contact him.
I should say that the SLF4J website in no way indicates that this is the case [1]. I would suggest that this page should be changed somehow to indicate that it is not a QOS.ch project. Perhaps there is a website you can point to? Or include the link to https://github.com/ceki/?
Nick
[1] http://www.slf4j.org/taglib/
On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
Hello Nick,
Slf4j-aglib was developed by Matt Humphreys <mhumph@gmail.com> based on earlier work done by Joseph Ottinger and James Strachan in Jakarta Commons Log Taglib. Please ask Matt Humphreys to donate slf4j-taglib code to Apache.
BTW, the source code for slf4j-taglib is available at:
https://github.com/ceki/slf4j-taglib
I hope this helps,
On 3/25/2013 2:21 PM, Nick Williams wrote:
Though the Log4j 2 tag library will obviously have some differences from slf4j-taglib, I can see how there may be some existing code that could be very useful to us. I'd like to go ahead and ask permission from the SLF4J developers to use code from slf4j-taglib for this project. The licenses are compatible (both Apache 2.0), so that won't be an issue. All I need is an email from y'all granting us permission.
Also, there's the issue that I can't find the source code for slf4j-taglib. It's not in the JARs or ZIPs available for download from the SLF4J website, it's not on the github repository, and it's not in Maven. Could anyone point me to its location?
Thanks in advance,
Nick Williams
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